{"id":13626,"date":"2021-05-05T17:52:06","date_gmt":"2021-05-05T15:52:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/terraforming.org\/?p=13626"},"modified":"2024-04-03T12:09:45","modified_gmt":"2024-04-03T10:09:45","slug":"memorijalni-centar-topovske-supe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/terraforming.org\/sr\/memorijalni-centar-topovske-supe\/","title":{"rendered":"Romske \u017ertve u Topovskim \u0161upama ne smeju biti zaboravljene"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-vzirg1-0d41e19fb2998dd27e8440c28bbe3a7f\">\n.flex_column.av-vzirg1-0d41e19fb2998dd27e8440c28bbe3a7f{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-vzirg1-0d41e19fb2998dd27e8440c28bbe3a7f av_one_full  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_three_fourth  avia-builder-el-first  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  '     ><div  class='avia-slideshow av-kobkogv7-98459e48a74ecd287ddc39d693034818 avia-slideshow-featured_large av_slideshow avia-slide-slider  avia-builder-el-1  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  av-slideshow-ui av-control-default av-slideshow-manual av-loop-once av-loop-manual-endless av-default-height-applied avia-slideshow-1' data-slideshow-options=\"{&quot;animation&quot;:&quot;slide&quot;,&quot;autoplay&quot;:false,&quot;loop_autoplay&quot;:&quot;once&quot;,&quot;interval&quot;:5,&quot;loop_manual&quot;:&quot;manual-endless&quot;,&quot;autoplay_stopper&quot;:false,&quot;noNavigation&quot;:false,&quot;bg_slider&quot;:false,&quot;keep_padding&quot;:false,&quot;hoverpause&quot;:false,&quot;show_slide_delay&quot;:0}\"  itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" ><ul class='avia-slideshow-inner ' style='padding-bottom: 42%;'><li  class='avia-slideshow-slide av-kobkogv7-98459e48a74ecd287ddc39d693034818__0  av-single-slide slide-1 slide-odd'><div data-rel='slideshow-1' class='avia-slide-wrap '   ><div class='av-slideshow-caption av-kobkogv7-98459e48a74ecd287ddc39d693034818__0 avia-caption'><div class=\"avia-inner-caption\"><div class='avia-caption-content '  itemprop=\"description\" ><p>povodom najave o izgradnji memorijalnog centra na Topovskim \u0161upama<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"wp-image-13630 avia-img-lazy-loading-not-13630\"  src=\"https:\/\/terraforming.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5128-1500x630.jpg\" width=\"1500\" height=\"630\" title='Topovske \u0161upe' alt='Topovske \u0161upe'  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"   \/><\/div><\/li><\/ul><\/div><\/div>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-nrqm41-035b539cdb161705fe817da1fba43da3\">\n.flex_column.av-nrqm41-035b539cdb161705fe817da1fba43da3{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-nrqm41-035b539cdb161705fe817da1fba43da3 av_three_fourth  avia-builder-el-2  el_after_av_one_full  el_before_av_one_fourth  first flex_column_div av-zero-column-padding  column-top-margin'     ><section  class='av_textblock_section av-knyrrx98-a35458af37164219ffcce79cec28a30b '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h1>Romske \u017ertve ne smeju biti zaboravljene<\/h1>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.beograd.rs\/lat\/beoinfo\/1782739-vesic-grad-preuzima-topovske-supe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Izjava zamenika gradona\u010delnika Beograda Gorana Vesi\u0107a<\/a> da \u0107e Grad Beograd prostor na Autokomandi do kraja godine proglasiti javnim i na njemu izgraditi Memorijalni centar Topovske \u0161upe, izazvala je nekoliko nedoumica.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8222;Kada krajem godine Plan detaljne regulacije bude zavr\u0161en i usvojen, i kada taj prostor dobije javnu namenu, Grad \u0107e zajedno sa Jevrejskom zajednicom raspisati konkurs za njegovo ure\u0111enje i izradu memorijala. Ovde nisu stradali samo Jevreji, ve\u0107 i Srbi, po\u010detkom Drugog svetskog rata ba\u0161 tu su dr\u017eani taoci koje je nema\u010dki okupator ubijao. Ovim \u0107e biti ispravljena velika nepravda naneta stradalim Srbima i Jevrejima&#8220;<\/em>, navodi se izme\u0111u ostalog u izjavi koju je gospodin Vesi\u0107 dao za Ve\u010dernje novosti.<\/p>\n<h3>Logor za jevrejske i romske mu\u0161karce<\/h3>\n<p>Na tom prostoru, u zgradama biv\u0161e kasarne Jugoslovenske vojske, na jesen 1941. godine Nemci su zato\u010dili jevejske i romske mu\u0161karce koji su slu\u017eili kao rezervoar talaca za masovna streljanja.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/topovskesupe.rs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Kroz logor Topovske \u0161upe pro\u0161lo je oko 5000 Jevreja i oko 1500 Roma<\/a>. Svi su streljani na strati\u0161tima oko Beograda. Logori Topovske \u0161upe, Jevrejski\/prihvatni logor Zemun na Starom sjami\u0161tu, svakako su neka od najva\u017enijih mesta stradanja u Beogradu koja tek treba da postanu mesta se\u0107anja i u\u010denja &#8211; \u0161to danas, na na\u0161u sramotu, jo\u0161 uvek nisu (kao, uostalom, ni logor na Banjici).<\/p>\n<h3>Tr\u017eni centar<\/h3>\n<p>Vest da \u0107e na prostoru Topovskih \u0161upa biti izgra\u0111en memorijalni centar je izvanredna, jer nadamo se, to zapravo zna\u010di da je definitivno re\u0161eno pitanje o\u010duvanja tog autenti\u010dnog mesta stradanja, odnosno, da se tu ne\u0107e graditi tr\u017eni centar kako je du\u017ee vreme bilo planirano. Treba sa\u010dekati dok ne bude objavljeno preciznije o kojem ta\u010dno prostoru je govorio gospodin Vesi\u0107 i da li su planom obuhva\u0107ene obe autenti\u010dne zgrade koje se tamo jo\u0161 uvek nalaze.<\/p>\n<h3>Gde su Romi?<\/h3>\n<p>U izjavi zamenika gradona\u010delnika Beograda o budu\u0107em Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Topovske \u0161upe&#8220; u o\u010di odmah upada da se<strong> uop\u0161te ne spominju Romi<\/strong>, koji su tu stradali u velikom broju. S druge strane, pominje se da su tu &#8222;stradali i Srbi&#8220;, koji nisu bili zato\u010deni u tom logoru.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Nemogu\u0107e je zamisliti Memorijalni centar &#8222;Topovske \u0161upe&#8220; koji ne bi bio posve\u0107en i Romima, odnosno, jo\u0161 preciznije, istoriji \u017eivota Roma u Beogradu pre Drugog svetskog rata, kao i njihovom stradanju za vreme nema\u010dke okupacije u \u010demu su va\u017enu ulogu imali policija i \u017eandari Milana Nedi\u0107a i posledicama koje je stradanje Roma ostavilo na romsku zajednicu do danas.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3>Zakon o Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220;<\/h3>\n<p>Nije sasvim jasno na koji na\u010din se ovaj plan Grada Beograda o Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Topovske \u0161upe&#8220; uklapa u <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rtv.rs\/sr_lat\/drustvo\/usvojen-zakon-o-memorijalnom-centru-staro-sajmiste_1096442.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Zakon o Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220;<\/a> koji je Skup\u0161tina Srbije usvojila jo\u0161 u februaru 2020. godine.<\/p>\n<p>Da li je ovo najava po\u010detka realizacije pomenutog zakona, ili je u pitanju neka sasvim nova inicijativa, ili mo\u017eda najava neke nove saradnje gradskih i republi\u010dkih vlasti u realizaciji tog projekta? Naime, kreiranje Memorijalnog centra na prostoru Topovskih \u0161upa je ve\u0107 obuhva\u0107eno pomenutim zakonom.<\/p>\n<p>U zakonu o Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220; je sasvim jasno odre\u0111eno da se Memorijalni centar, osim fokusa na logor na Sajmi\u0161tu, osniva kao ustanova kulture sa ciljem negovanja se\u0107anja na \u017ertve nacisti\u010dkog koncentracionog logora Jevrejskog prolaznog logora Beograd \u2013 Topovske \u0161upe.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.propisi.net\/zakon-o-memorijalnom-centru-staro-sajmiste\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Zakon tako\u0111e predvi\u0111a<\/a> da se u Memorijalnom centru &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220; formira i poseban programski savet za Jedinstveni Muzej &#8222;Jevrejskog prolaznog logora Beograd \u2013 Topovske \u0161upe&#8220;. \u010clan 12. istog zakona eksplicitno defini\u0161e da teritorija Memorijalnog centra &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220; obuhvata, osim prostora biv\u0161eg Beogradskog sajma na levoj obali Save i odgovaraju\u0107i prostor Jevrejskog prolaznog logora Beograd \u2013 &#8222;Topovske \u0161upe&#8220; na katastarskim parcelama odre\u0111enim odgovaraju\u0107im planskim aktom.<\/p>\n<h3>Mesta zaborava treba da posanu mesta se\u0107anja i u\u010denja<\/h3>\n<p>Bez obzira na ove nedoumice, pozdravljamo svaki potez gradskih i republi\u010dkih vlasti koji osigurava o\u010duvanje autenti\u010dnih prostora stradanja i njihovo pretvaranje u prostore se\u0107anja i u\u010denja.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Ukoliko se tom poslu pristupi pravilno, \u0161to zna\u010di profesionalno i hrabro, budu\u0107i memorijalni centar &#8222;Staro sajmi\u0161te&#8220; koji uklju\u010duje i prostor Topovskih \u0161upa mogao bi da postane jedan od najva\u017enijih evropskih centara za edukaciju i istra\u017eivanje ovog perioda na\u0161e istorije kao neodvojivog dela evropskog istorijskog nasle\u0111a Drugog svetskog rata i jedan od najzna\u010dajnijih instrumenata za borbu protiv iskrivljenja, manipulacije i politizacije istorije, kako u regionu, tako i \u0161irom Evrope.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/section><br \/>\n\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-2mqcpy-1f43a2bdb80101e24f57d8a2b1ef136e\">\n#top .hr.hr-invisible.av-2mqcpy-1f43a2bdb80101e24f57d8a2b1ef136e{\nheight:50px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='hr av-2mqcpy-1f43a2bdb80101e24f57d8a2b1ef136e hr-invisible  avia-builder-el-4  el_after_av_textblock  avia-builder-el-last '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><\/p><\/div>\n<style type=\"text\/css\" data-created_by=\"avia_inline_auto\" id=\"style-css-av-nngak1-51e408164d11edadd139bc7a11a88753\">\n.flex_column.av-nngak1-51e408164d11edadd139bc7a11a88753{\nborder-radius:0px 0px 0px 0px;\npadding:0px 0px 0px 0px;\n}\n<\/style>\n<div  class='flex_column av-nngak1-51e408164d11edadd139bc7a11a88753 av_one_fourth  avia-builder-el-5  el_after_av_three_fourth  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Svi su streljani na strati\u0161tima oko Beograda.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/section><\/p><\/div><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Izjava zamenika gradona\u010delnika Beograda Gorana Vesi\u0107a da \u0107e Grad Beograd prostor na Autokomandi do kraja godine proglasiti javnim i na njemu izgraditi Memorijalni centar Topovske \u0161upe, izazvala je nekoliko nedoumica. Da li je ovo najava po\u010detka realizacije zakona o Memorijalnom centru \u201dStaro sajmi\u0161te\u201d? 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